I was thinking about Wendy's Blog and my own experience with scammers. I know I have a few ideas about how to spot them, but I could definitely use more ... and maybe it would help all of us if we listed the red flags. Mine are:
1. won't chat on LF and insists on another chat location 2. tells you he loves you, wants to marry you, build his dreams around you etc. after a few chats 3. wants to talk/chat at length every day (no one has that much time, unless their 'job' is scamming) 4. wants you to delete your profile and get off LF because you've finally found each other (before you've ever met in person) 5. works on an offshore oil rig 6. no answer at the phone number he gave you (or excuses about bad reception because he works on an oil rig) 7. cell phone numbers registered out of South Carolina (not all of them of course, but it seems to be a trend) 8. calls that come through an international router number 9. all the compliments and declarations of falling in love begin to sound emotionally manipulative (because they are) 10. widowed AND orphaned (has no family at all except a child)... has a child who lives with a distant relative in another country (because they work such long hours or whatever) 11. gets angry when you don't respond they way they want 12. request for money ('nuff said)
Frankly, 2, 4-6, 8,10 and 12 aren't just red flags ... they're deal breakers.
I was thinking about Wendy's Blog and my own experience with scammers. I know I have a few ideas about how to spot them, but I could definitely use more ... and maybe it would help all of us if we listed the red flags. Mine are:
1. won't chat on LF and insists on another chat location
2. tells you he loves you, wants to marry you, build his dreams around you etc. after a few chats
3. wants to talk/chat at length every day (no one has that much time, unless their 'job' is scamming)
4. wants you to delete your profile and get off LF because you've finally found each other (before you've ever met in person)
5. works on an offshore oil rig
6. no answer at the phone number he gave you (or excuses about bad reception because he works on an oil rig)
7. cell phone numbers registered out of South Carolina (not all of them of course, but it seems to be a trend)
8. calls that come through an international router number
9. all the compliments and declarations of falling in love begin to sound emotionally manipulative (because they are)
10. widowed AND orphaned (has no family at all except a child)... has a child who lives with a distant relative in another country (because they work such long hours or whatever)
11. gets angry when you don't respond they way they want
12. request for money ('nuff said)
Frankly, 2, 4-6, 8,10 and 12 aren't just red flags ... they're deal breakers.
Quoting: Originally posted by islandgal64 So, would I be right to assume that the following, received from someone who has hidden their profile, should stir my suspicions....? Somehow I doubt I am the only recipient - interesting there is no mention of age or location - I presume they tailor that to suit once someone is gullible enough to respond?!
"Hello,I pray that you have a very Blessed filled day.Hope my Message meet you in a Good Fate,I am a new member here so i am just trying to check out how this works though on here when i came across your Profile as a Match. I would also like you to know that this is also my first time ever doing something like as well. I decided to try it out and find out where and what it would or could lead to as i long to have a life partner. I was really intrigued by your profile and I think that you are a Charming and loving woman,that need a woman to love her as she will give her man much love,respect and honesty. I am impressed with you and admire you. Am a easy going man,a good communicator,open minded,Generous,promising and truthful,I am a Business Owner i have been Managining my Business now for 16 years,I personally find interesting in you cos you are very Pretty,Witty,Charming and Beautiful with such a woman of your kind will have a Big and Kind Heart fill of Gold and Love as well... My name is XXXXXXXXX and I have been Widower for over 4 years; and I have 2 Kids that I raised alone. Now they are growing pretty fast . I would love to have someone special in my life right now. I am open minded; not hard to get along with; do my best to be honest with people; and communicates well with others. I am very affectionate and loving; watching movies, going on picnics; enjoy cuddling with someone special. My greatest joy is spending time with my Kids. I love them very much. I am looking for a long term relationship that may lead to marriage to someone really wonderful who will allow me to love them and a woman of your kind who understands the need to love and be loved back in return,cos what really matters is the Heart,Love,Affectionate and Happiness... I look forward to chatting with you soon!!
LOL ... yes!! And I'll bet you got it yesterday, with a subject line that said "Hey Sexy!!"
I think the hidden profile, in this case, may mean he's already been reported as a scammer, and the profile has been deleted, but I'm not sure.
Quoting islandgal64:
So, would I be right to assume that the following, received from someone who has hidden their profile, should stir my suspicions....? Somehow I doubt I am the only recipient - interesting there is no mention of age or location - I presume they tailor that to suit once someone is gullible enough to respond?!
"Hello,I pray that you have a very Blessed filled day.Hope my Message meet you in a Good Fate,I am a new member here so i am just trying to check out how this works though on here when i came across your Profile as a Match. I would also like you to know that this is also my first time ever doing something like as well. I decided to try it out and find out where and what it would or could lead to as i long to have a life partner. I was really intrigued by your profile and I think that you are a Charming and loving woman,that need a woman to love her as she will give her man much love,respect and honesty. I am impressed with you and admire you. Am a easy going man,a good communicator,open minded,Generous,promising and truthful,I am a Business Owner i have been Managining my Business now for 16 years,I personally find interesting in you cos you are very Pretty,Witty,Charming and Beautiful with such a woman of your kind will have a Big and Kind Heart fill of Gold and Love as well... My name is XXXXXXXXX and I have been Widower for over 4 years; and I have 2 Kids that I raised alone. Now they are growing pretty fast . I would love to have someone special in my life right now. I am open minded; not hard to get along with; do my best to be honest with people; and communicates well with others. I am very affectionate and loving; watching movies, going on picnics; enjoy cuddling with someone special. My greatest joy is spending time with my Kids. I love them very much. I am looking for a long term relationship that may lead to marriage to someone really wonderful who will allow me to love them and a woman of your kind who understands the need to love and be loved back in return,cos what really matters is the Heart,Love,Affectionate and Happiness... I look forward to chatting with you soon!!
LOL ... yes!! And I'll bet you got it yesterday, with a subject line that said "Hey Sexy!!"
I think the hidden profile, in this case, may mean he's already been reported as a scammer, and the profile has been deleted, but I'm not sure.
So, would I be right to assume that the following, received from someone who has hidden their profile, should stir my suspicions....? Somehow I doubt I am the only recipient - interesting there is no mention of age or location - I presume they tailor that to suit once someone is gullible enough to respond?!
"Hello,I pray that you have a very Blessed filled day.Hope my Message meet you in a Good Fate,I am a new member here so i am just trying to check out how this works though on here when i came across your Profile as a Match. I would also like you to know that this is also my first time ever doing something like as well. I decided to try it out and find out where and what it would or could lead to as i long to have a life partner. I was really intrigued by your profile and I think that you are a Charming and loving woman,that need a woman to love her as she will give her man much love,respect and honesty. I am impressed with you and admire you. Am a easy going man,a good communicator,open minded,Generous,promising and truthful,I am a Business Owner i have been Managining my Business now for 16 years,I personally find interesting in you cos you are very Pretty,Witty,Charming and Beautiful with such a woman of your kind will have a Big and Kind Heart fill of Gold and Love as well... My name is XXXXXXXXX and I have been Widower for over 4 years; and I have 2 Kids that I raised alone. Now they are growing pretty fast . I would love to have someone special in my life right now. I am open minded; not hard to get along with; do my best to be honest with people; and communicates well with others. I am very affectionate and loving; watching movies, going on picnics; enjoy cuddling with someone special. My greatest joy is spending time with my Kids. I love them very much. I am looking for a long term relationship that may lead to marriage to someone really wonderful who will allow me to love them and a woman of your kind who understands the need to love and be loved back in return,cos what really matters is the Heart,Love,Affectionate and Happiness... I look forward to chatting with you soon!!
So, would I be right to assume that the following, received from someone who has hidden their profile, should stir my suspicions....? Somehow I doubt I am the only recipient - interesting there is no mention of age or location - I presume they tailor that to suit once someone is gullible enough to respond?!
"Hello,I pray that you have a very Blessed filled day.Hope my Message meet you in a Good Fate,I am a new member here so i am just trying to check out how this works though on here when i came across your Profile as a Match.
I would also like you to know that this is also my first time ever doing something like as well. I decided to try it out and find out where and what it would or could lead to as i long to have a life partner.
I was really intrigued by your profile and I think that you are a Charming and loving woman,that need a woman to love her as she will give her man much love,respect and honesty. I am impressed with you and admire you.
Am a easy going man,a good communicator,open minded,Generous,promising and truthful,I am a Business Owner i have been Managining my Business now for 16 years,I personally find interesting in you cos you are very Pretty,Witty,Charming and Beautiful with such a woman of your kind will have a Big and Kind Heart fill of Gold and Love as well...
My name is XXXXXXXXX and I have been Widower for over 4 years; and I have 2 Kids that I raised alone. Now they are growing pretty fast . I would love to have someone special in my life right now.
I am open minded; not hard to get along with; do my best to be honest with people; and communicates well with others. I am very affectionate and loving; watching movies, going on picnics; enjoy cuddling with someone special. My greatest joy is spending time with my Kids. I love them very much.
I am looking for a long term relationship that may lead to marriage to someone really wonderful who will allow me to love them and a woman of your kind who understands the need to love and be loved back in return,cos what really matters is the Heart,Love,Affectionate and Happiness...
I look forward to chatting with you soon!!
Quoting: Originally posted by wyldechild You can check the incoming IP address if you've rec'd an email outside of LF from them (it's in the header of the email). If you find it on the RIPE dbase, it's Non-US. Google the username or email address as well, sometimes you can find addt'l information. There are a few good resources on the 'net to help figure out if they are legit or not.
There are a couple that are harder to spot. Coming in with European IP addys, they have a better grasp of English slang, better sounding life "stories", etc.
And one of the best things to do if you're not sure if they are legit or not, ask for help.
Never use IM programs or webcams with anyone you aren't sure of either. Pics can be taken by the person viewing your webcam.
this is so good ... thanks Wylde!
And Island, I'm not sure what makes one more vulnerable than another. If u r not getting hit up by them that's great!
Quoting wyldechild:
You can check the incoming IP address if you've rec'd an email outside of LF from them (it's in the header of the email). If you find it on the RIPE dbase, it's Non-US. Google the username or email address as well, sometimes you can find addt'l information. There are a few good resources on the 'net to help figure out if they are legit or not.
There are a couple that are harder to spot. Coming in with European IP addys, they have a better grasp of English slang, better sounding life "stories", etc.
And one of the best things to do if you're not sure if they are legit or not, ask for help.
Never use IM programs or webcams with anyone you aren't sure of either. Pics can be taken by the person viewing your webcam.
this is so good ... thanks Wylde!
And Island, I'm not sure what makes one more vulnerable than another. If u r not getting hit up by them that's great!
You can check the incoming IP address if you've rec'd an email outside of LF from them (it's in the header of the email). If you find it on the RIPE dbase, it's Non-US. Google the username or email address as well, sometimes you can find addt'l information. There are a few good resources on the 'net to help figure out if they are legit or not.
There are a couple that are harder to spot. Coming in with European IP addys, they have a better grasp of English slang, better sounding life "stories", etc.
And one of the best things to do if you're not sure if they are legit or not, ask for help.
Never use IM programs or webcams with anyone you aren't sure of either. Pics can be taken by the person viewing your webcam.
You can check the incoming IP address if you've rec'd an email outside of LF from them (it's in the header of the email). If you find it on the RIPE dbase, it's Non-US. Google the username or email address as well, sometimes you can find addt'l information. There are a few good resources on the 'net to help figure out if they are legit or not.
There are a couple that are harder to spot. Coming in with European IP addys, they have a better grasp of English slang, better sounding life "stories", etc.
And one of the best things to do if you're not sure if they are legit or not, ask for help.
Never use IM programs or webcams with anyone you aren't sure of either. Pics can be taken by the person viewing your webcam.
Quoting: Originally posted by ozredhead62 OMG, Mr Oil rig does get around, dont forget the one that is stuck in Africa with his business in crisis, just needs a little funding. My personal favorite was the one that told me that he loved me in the 2nd email and when I pulled him up on this, argues with me for the next 6 emails how I was sent to him by god. GRRRRRRRRRHHHH
Well done on putting this up, they are out there and just keep on trying, I just got another 2 winks this week from these scum bags.
Wow, I registered here a while ago, and I think tonight is my first time back in months. I'd never seen these blogs, but yay for me tonight. I'm learning the scammers here are as bad as on POF or any other site.
Quoting ozredhead62:
OMG, Mr Oil rig does get around, dont forget the one that is stuck in Africa with his business in crisis, just needs a little funding. My personal favorite was the one that told me that he loved me in the 2nd email and when I pulled him up on this, argues with me for the next 6 emails how I was sent to him by god. GRRRRRRRRRHHHH
Well done on putting this up, they are out there and just keep on trying, I just got another 2 winks this week from these scum bags.
Wow, I registered here a while ago, and I think tonight is my first time back in months. I'd never seen these blogs, but yay for me tonight. I'm learning the scammers here are as bad as on POF or any other site.
Living with parents because roommates girlfriend moved in their apartment.
Wants to take you to the "hot tubs" or hot springs.
Tells a story about how two of his female friends from the site caught the guy they were dating with the other girl ... I'm thinking it was HIM who got caught.
Refuses to call because you have caller ID on your phone.
Lies about how long he's been a member of dating site or how many he's registered on.
What about":
Living with parents because roommates girlfriend moved in their apartment.
Wants to take you to the "hot tubs" or hot springs.
Tells a story about how two of his female friends from the site caught the guy they were dating with the other girl ... I'm thinking it was HIM who got caught.
Refuses to call because you have caller ID on your phone.
Lies about how long he's been a member of dating site or how many he's registered on.
You wouldn't think that somewhat educated women would even need a post like this, but after being on this site a while, it's plainly obvious, THEY DO! I find that if I go with my gut, I am pretty much safe from scammers. This goes for my off-line life, too! I don't EVER reply to emails and / or winks from those that are "too good to be true". I trust my instincts. So far, they haven't steered me wrong. I just hope that they will steer me right into Mr. Right's arms!--True
You wouldn't think that somewhat educated women would even need a post like this, but after being on this site a while, it's plainly obvious, THEY DO! I find that if I go with my gut, I am pretty much safe from scammers. This goes for my off-line life, too! I don't EVER reply to emails and / or winks from those that are "too good to be true". I trust my instincts. So far, they haven't steered me wrong. I just hope that they will steer me right into Mr. Right's arms!--True
OMG, Mr Oil rig does get around, dont forget the one that is stuck in Africa with his business in crisis, just needs a little funding. My personal favorite was the one that told me that he loved me in the 2nd email and when I pulled him up on this, argues with me for the next 6 emails how I was sent to him by god. GRRRRRRRRRHHHH
Well done on putting this up, they are out there and just keep on trying, I just got another 2 winks this week from these scum bags.
OMG, Mr Oil rig does get around, dont forget the one that is stuck in Africa with his business in crisis, just needs a little funding. My personal favorite was the one that told me that he loved me in the 2nd email and when I pulled him up on this, argues with me for the next 6 emails how I was sent to him by god. GRRRRRRRRRHHHH
Well done on putting this up, they are out there and just keep on trying, I just got another 2 winks this week from these scum bags.
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